Interviewer: Swedish Radio-Television reporter
Question: [The Shah and Dr. Amini «1» have entered some negotiations which indicate the Shah is ready to retreat and show lenience. He has released the political prisoners. Could His Eminence Ayatullah agree on leaving a role for the Shah in a more free government?]
Answer: The Shah has been carrying out a plan for a while now to deceive the people; he has entered negotiations with some people and has made some withdrawals to mislead people. But people do not want the Shah, no matter how much he backs off. The final word supported by the nation is that, for all the crimes that the Shah has already committed against this nation and country, and the disloyalties he has thus far carried out, he is not acceptable; neither him nor his dynasty. This dynasty must be overthrown! The type of government will be determined by holding a referendum.
Q: [You have stated that you will call people to an armed war if needed; are you still considering this?]
A: We will try our best to avoid an armed confrontation, and believe that we will get results by the way the nation is proceeding; but if he shows obstinacy, and the superpowers continue to help him, we may then consider that.